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Who made the Firestaff? Why?

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:50 pm
by bbobb
Perhaps, I haven't been paying close enough attention in my two times through the series, but I don't remember seeing an explanation of who made the Firestaff and why. I have to assume that something that powerful was created for a reason - who would go to all that trouble just because?

I'm pretty sure this is a failure of imagination on my part, but I can't fathom a reason why somebody would create it. It seems that somebody who would have the power to create it, i.e. a god, wouldn't really need it and would prefer that it didn't exist and anybody who might actually have a need for it, i.e. non-god, wouldn't be able to create it.

Could it be some sort of Entropic in the form of an object?

bbobb

Re: Who made the Firestaff? Why?

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:31 pm
by Spec8472
bbobb wrote:Perhaps, I haven't been paying close enough attention in my two times through the series, but I don't remember seeing an explanation of who made the Firestaff and why. I have to assume that something that powerful was created for a reason - who would go to all that trouble just because?
I was pretty sure it said somewhere in the Pyrosian Chronicles that it was created by the gods (not sure _why_, though - bored, perhaps?).
If memory serves correctly, it was during an explanation of the planes and operation of magic on those.



/me waits for Lochar to turn up...

Re: Who made the Firestaff? Why?

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:41 pm
by sOmeone
Spec8472 wrote:
bbobb wrote:Perhaps, I haven't been paying close enough attention in my two times through the series, but I don't remember seeing an explanation of who made the Firestaff and why. I have to assume that something that powerful was created for a reason - who would go to all that trouble just because?
I was pretty sure it said somewhere in the Pyrosian Chronicles that it was created by the gods (not sure _why_, though - bored, perhaps?).
If memory serves correctly, it was during an explanation of the planes and operation of magic on those.
Not Quite
here is an excerpt from a chat a while back
Oct 22 14:47:05 Lochar: Hey Fel, can I ask a question about the Firestaff and the GoG? Or do you want me to ask it privately, in case it's spoilers?
Oct 22 14:47:34 Fel: go for it
Oct 22 14:47:40 Fel: as in ask in here
Oct 22 14:47:53 Fel: because you're not gonna like the aaaannnnsswweeerrrrr...............
Oct 22 14:48:18 Lochar: The Firestaff. Created by the GoG as a test for Elder Gods as to how they would react to a mortal gaining powers outside their control, and a test to mortals to see how they would react to recieving such power.
Oct 22 14:49:08 Fel: The Firestaff: a product of Entropy, unleashed into the material planes as a test of man and god alike, and ultimately a tool to help bring about the destruction of all.
Spec8472 wrote: /me waits for Lochar to turn up...
Lol, I just did Lochar's job.

Re: Who made the Firestaff? Why?

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:18 am
by Lochar
sOmeone wrote:
Oct 22 14:47:05 Lochar: Hey Fel, can I ask a question about the Firestaff and the GoG? Or do you want me to ask it privately, in case it's spoilers?
Oct 22 14:47:34 Fel: go for it
Oct 22 14:47:40 Fel: as in ask in here
Oct 22 14:47:53 Fel: because you're not gonna like the aaaannnnsswweeerrrrr...............
Oct 22 14:48:18 Lochar: The Firestaff. Created by the GoG as a test for Elder Gods as to how they would react to a mortal gaining powers outside their control, and a test to mortals to see how they would react to recieving such power.
Oct 22 14:49:08 Fel: The Firestaff: a product of Entropy, unleashed into the material planes as a test of man and god alike, and ultimately a tool to help bring about the destruction of all.
Spec8472 wrote: /me waits for Lochar to turn up...
Lol, I just did Lochar's job.
Heh. Sorry, I was in class or I would have pulled up the same logs.

Re: Who made the Firestaff? Why?

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:41 am
by Fel
yup, it was created by Entropy itself, which means that its indirect creator was the God of Gods, since it was spun from the balance that He maintains.

The purpose of the Firestaff is to destroy. That is its function. Specifically, its mission is to grant power to mortals that causes the destruction of material planes when the power consumes the mortal-turned-god and that agent causes the destruction. It's a test, a test of both mortals and gods. It's a test of mortals to reject the power it offers, and a test of gods to deal with that power when it is unleashed. You see, the Firestaff can never act directly to destroy, though it MAY act directly in certain narrow circumstances, such as responding to the call of one in whom it has already invested power, or one who has already been seduced by the power that it offers. That's how both Val and Tarrin have been able to tap power from the Firestaff.

Re: Who made the Firestaff? Why?

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:38 am
by Hearly
Fel wrote:yup, it was created by Entropy itself, which means that its indirect creator was the God of Gods, since it was spun from the balance that He maintains.

The purpose of the Firestaff is to destroy. That is its function. Specifically, its mission is to grant power to mortals that causes the destruction of material planes when the power consumes the mortal-turned-god and that agent causes the destruction. It's a test, a test of both mortals and gods. It's a test of mortals to reject the power it offers, and a test of gods to deal with that power when it is unleashed. You see, the Firestaff can never act directly to destroy, though it MAY act directly in certain narrow circumstances, such as responding to the call of one in whom it has already invested power, or one who has already been seduced by the power that it offers. That's how both Val and Tarrin have been able to tap power from the Firestaff.
Hmmm, That open's up a bit, I wonder if With Tarrin knowing what he is now, could he take with with him when he leaves Sennadar after his fight with Spyder.... with that I do not think the One would stand a chance...

Re: Who made the Firestaff? Why?

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:39 am
by Metatrone
Well he did "try" and he couldn't. It was in the Other place, in the shaeram, but when he pass into Pyrosian it wasn't there any more. That is if I remember correctly. But the question is why?

Re: Who made the Firestaff? Why?

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:15 pm
by Lochar
Tarrin didn't know what he was, or what the Firestaff truly was then. He didn't learn that until after Pyrosia.

Re: Who made the Firestaff? Why?

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:36 pm
by J-Man5
Fel,

If the Firestaff contains an "echo of creation" are there more powerful artifacts out there?

Should we be worried?

J-Man5

editied for spelling