Tribulation (SPOILERS) Chapter 4

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Fighters are now capable on taking capital ships with their weaponry, save for the factor that capital ship weapons will destroy them. so they need to not get hit and if they do survive enough to deal with the enermy. To ensure not get hitt, a form of cloak or stealth is needed, either the ships cant detect them, or the targeting sensors can not achieve a lock. SO be invisable, or use scanner blockers. SO it would be a matter of luck and fire power to hit a target. Also the fighter needs to be high manoverable so to doge fire. If hit it need to take it, so choice of shieldsto block or refract, armour, that compensator jason has to help so partial immunity to weapon fire. WHat about an additional power system where the fighter gains power from allies and enemies broadcast power to augment it system. WHile direct, sustain and massed fire will mean death so long as these are avoided, the fighters should kill them.
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SYED wrote:Fighters are now capable on taking capital ships with their weaponry, save for the factor that capital ship weapons will destroy them. so they need to not get hit and if they do survive enough to deal with the enermy. To ensure not get hitt, a form of cloak or stealth is needed, either the ships cant detect them, or the targeting sensors can not achieve a lock. SO be invisable, or use scanner blockers. SO it would be a matter of luck and fire power to hit a target. Also the fighter needs to be high manoverable so to doge fire. If hit it need to take it, so choice of shieldsto block or refract, armour, that compensator jason has to help so partial immunity to weapon fire. WHat about an additional power system where the fighter gains power from allies and enemies broadcast power to augment it system. WHile direct, sustain and massed fire will mean death so long as these are avoided, the fighters should kill them.
The fighters could be tracked by the weapons fire. Making the stealth only useful for ambush situations.

However taking your idea and adapting it to special stealth sniper ships might be viable. Where as part of a fleet group four or five stealthed ships gave supporting fire using stealthed missiles which only manoeuvre subtly or rail guns using stealthed or difficult to detect rounds. They could also be used as scouts or in a similar role to submarines in modern US fleet groups. It might also be useful for the broadcast power jamming when they get it to work.
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expedient wrote:
SYED wrote:Fighters are now capable on taking capital ships with their weaponry, save for the factor that capital ship weapons will destroy them. so they need to not get hit and if they do survive enough to deal with the enermy. To ensure not get hitt, a form of cloak or stealth is needed, either the ships cant detect them, or the targeting sensors can not achieve a lock. SO be invisable, or use scanner blockers. SO it would be a matter of luck and fire power to hit a target. Also the fighter needs to be high manoverable so to doge fire. If hit it need to take it, so choice of shieldsto block or refract, armour, that compensator jason has to help so partial immunity to weapon fire. WHat about an additional power system where the fighter gains power from allies and enemies broadcast power to augment it system. WHile direct, sustain and massed fire will mean death so long as these are avoided, the fighters should kill them.
The fighters could be tracked by the weapons fire. Making the stealth only useful for ambush situations.

However taking your idea and adapting it to special stealth sniper ships might be viable. Where as part of a fleet group four or five stealthed ships gave supporting fire using stealthed missiles which only manoeuvre subtly or rail guns using stealthed or difficult to detect rounds. They could also be used as scouts or in a similar role to submarines in modern US fleet groups. It might also be useful for the broadcast power jamming when they get it to work.
100% right.Now , i think about it , a surprise that the faey or karrines don't have something similar. good catch guys.
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You forget about the idea for the stealth that confusses their targeting sensors. The war ships and their fighters will track and target using sensors correct, not visually, so if they distort the readings, the enemy may know there are fighters there but never seem to get an accuate lock. and if they cant tell where they are, then they cant hit it. THis kinda stealth is more use ful in combat, they already know there is an enemy, this just ensures they cant hit it.
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SYED wrote:You forget about the idea for the stealth that confusses their targeting sensors. The war ships and their fighters will track and target using sensors correct, not visually, so if they distort the readings, the enemy may know there are fighters there but never seem to get an accuate lock. and if they cant tell where they are, then they cant hit it. THis kinda stealth is more use ful in combat, they already know there is an enemy, this just ensures they cant hit it.
No, I'm not. The fighters would have to work to a completely different spec. Any ship firing at any sort of consistent rate would be susceptible to location by intelligent analysts. The stealth technology would be useful in the first few seconds then would offer little advantage except in ambush type situations of fire once or twice then bug out. If a fighter was even minimally hit it would be destroyed as it couldn't use its projective shields whilst the stealth field is in place (or at least he couldn't on the skimmer).

A better design would be something with strong hull shielding like the exploration vessels which could have large weapons on-board to do significant damage along with other duties such as outriders, protectors, signal intelligence & warfare together with at least medium distance hyperspace capabilities.
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Only really thick hull can stand against capital fire, so fighters need an option, the weapons work on spatial basis, they distort any area they touch. jason has a compensator, but would that allow them to use the weaponry as well. no fighter could truly take capital fire directly, so either ensure it does not hit or when it does hit the energy or affect id reduced. what happen when torsion, or omega weaponry is hit by the same weapons, or a torsion wave. could it reduce the power of the weaponry.

in somme sci fi, there is such a thing as the n jammer, which block nucleur bombs, can there be one for the enemy weapons.
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SYED wrote:in somme sci fi, there is such a thing as the n jammer, which block nucleur bombs, can there be one for the enemy weapons.
There has been some discussion previously about using the torsion shockwave weapon as a defense against the Consortium torsion beams. Fel confirmed that they did provide a defense but they are only fitted to the bigger ships.

Fel also hinted that a Generation merged with a CBIM could potentially defend ships in a more complete manner. This would require an even bigger ship due to the power requirements.

The fighters biggest advantages are that they are small, fast and nimble, making them hard to hit, yet powerful enough to do real damage to big ships. It's a compromise which is fit to their current purpose.
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WOuld any wormhole technology or space manipulation, be used in disrupting their attacks, the torsion weaponry disrupts space it touches, karrinne capital ships hull does resist it somewhat due to its density and strength. any thing that may affect phyisicly space, may stop the effects.

the armor should either resist the effects of the weaponry completely, or have the capacity to deal with them, like letting it pass straight through it. THey know that the consortium are telepathic and speak in a light based language, which means, they might not be able to speak or hear. Which means it may be possible to blind them.

Computers can be networked for greater strength, waht would happen if a cbim networked with other computers and multiple generations, fighters could network themselves for greater strength, almost hive mind like.

the plasma unit that create a wormhole that send the core that explodes into deep space, can that be aimed.

THing i realised, the consortium sent a assasin they trained to kill kellin. the big question is why. then i realised it may be because he is a historian, he may know something they dont want known, something the old karrines discovered.
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SYED wrote:WOuld any wormhole technology or space manipulation, be used in disrupting their attacks, the torsion weaponry disrupts space it touches, karrinne capital ships hull does resist it somewhat due to its density and strength. any thing that may affect phyisicly space, may stop the effects.

the armor should either resist the effects of the weaponry completely, or have the capacity to deal with them, like letting it pass straight through it. THey know that the consortium are telepathic and speak in a light based language, which means, they might not be able to speak or hear. Which means it may be possible to blind them.

Computers can be networked for greater strength, waht would happen if a cbim networked with other computers and multiple generations, fighters could network themselves for greater strength, almost hive mind like.

the plasma unit that create a wormhole that send the core that explodes into deep space, can that be aimed.

THing i realised, the consortium sent a assasin they trained to kill kellin. the big question is why. then i realised it may be because he is a historian, he may know something they dont want known, something the old karrines discovered.
wow syed , that's the best answer i have heard till now to that question. fantastic. :D

It does indeed fit. he might know something , in his branch of historical studies.b a weakness to exploit.
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the terryans antenae, made from hyper mater turns transmissions into terryan transmission, could some thing made from matter from hyper space, be usefyl in dealing with hyper matter weaponry.
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THe torsion shockwave alters space so the area is shaken apart. the torsion beam is pure energy brought into our space. jason ancestor collected real material from that space, could jason use those beam to create more higher dimension material.
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